Volume 5

The works of Plato. A new and literal version, chiefly from the text of Stallbaum ... By Henry Cary [vol. II, Henry Davis, vols. III-VI, George Burges] / [Plato].

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1848-1854
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    Athen. What then, is it the same in the case of one family towards another family, and in the case of one man towards another ? Clin. The same. Athen. But in the case of a person towards hifnself, shall we consider him in that of an enemy towards an enemy? Or, how shall we say ? Clin. O Athenian guest,—for I am not willing to call you Attic, because you appear to me rather to deserve to be called after the name of the goddess Minerva,^—you have, by cor¬ rectly carrying back the reasoning to its principle, made it clearer; so that you will more easily discover that it has just now been rightly said, that all persons are enemies to all, both publicly and privately, and^ each individual to himself. Athen. How hast thou, O wonderful man, said this ? Clin. ^ And these, too,^ O guest; it is the first and best of all victories for a man to conquer himself; but to be van¬ quished by himself is of all things the most shameful and vile. For these words'^ signify that there is a w^ar in each'of us against ourselves. Athen. Let us then turn back our discourse. For, since each of us is ^one better and another^ worse than 'himself, shall we say that a family, and a village, and a state, have this same thing in them, or not ? Clin. Do you mean that (one)^ is better than itself in some things, and the other -worse ? Athen. Yes. Clin. Concerning this too you have rightly inquired. For ^ Namely, Athene. Plato meant to say that the guest was Athene- like, not merely boim in Attica, where there were many persons not at all like Athene, the goddess of wisdom. 2 Ficinus has “ et,” answering to Kai in MS. Voss, alone. ®^ Ast explains /cai ivravQa by “in the latter case,” viz. of an in¬ dividual. But IvTuWa could hardly be thus applied. There is doubtless some error here. Namely, “to conquer and be conquered.” Asx. ® ^ Instead of 6 fitv—6 Sk, which could scarcely thus follow sIq eKaarog hjiCov, one would prefer to fiev—to de, similar to KpdTToj—Tiva in the next speech of Clinias. ® Ast says that tijv p.lv is to be supplied in the first clause, answering to T-qv ds in the second, and refers to Heusde Specim. Crit. p. 76, Heind. on Gorg. § 24, and Hermann on Viger. p. 699. ^^ Ficinus has, “non enim minus civitatibus id contingit; immo
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